Glenna2/SG-Meeting-2018-10-24

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Glenna2 steering group meeting

Time: Wednesday 2018-10-24 at 12:00-15:00 CEST
Place: VideoConference https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g4g5nyl5glc66wqgbqk4yjvb4ua

Live Minutes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eFp1na1fMz_p6g1K_frbVkSfoBPGsqY0n38m9VCWa_g

Approved: yes

Invitations:

  • Martin Bech, representing DeIC, DK
  • Aleksi Kallio, representing CSC, FI
  • Magnús Gíslason, representing CSUI, IS
  • Olav Kvittem, representing UNINETT Sigma2, NO
  • Andreas Hellander, representing SNIC, SE
  • Dan Still Project Manager representing NeIC
  • Michaela Barth, NeIC Executive Manager, representing NeIC, Chair

Location

Google Hangouts https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g4g5nyl5glc66wqgbqk4yjvb4ua


Links

Agenda

Glenna2 SG 18-17. Welcome and Presence
Glenna2 SG 18-18. Report on Project Status, Use Cases and Staff Changes from Project Manger
Glenna2 SG 18-19. iOBS (NordNWP) project
Glenna2 SG 18-20. Midterm report outcome
Glenna2 SG 18-21. NeIC Announcements
Glenna2 SG 18-22. DP checklist and business case
Glenna2 SG 18-23. Benefit analysis
Glenna2 SG 18-24. AOB and Selfassessment
Glenna2 SG 18-25. Next meeting

Minutes

Glenna2 SG 18-17. Welcome and Presence

(5 min)

Presence: Dan Still (NeIC), Michaela Barth (NeIC), Olav Kvittem (NO), Aleksi Kallio (FI) replacing Jussi Heikonen, Andreas Hellander (SE) (joint late)

Known Absences: Magnús Gíslason (IS), Martin Bech (DK)

Glenna2 SG 18-18. Report on Project Status, Use Cases and Staff Changes

Presentation:

Overview of latest developments. iOBS and midtermp report background

Discussion:

  • Michaela sent an email on the chosen AAI solutions (including eduGain) for the future EOSC Portal.
  • DataPorten now called FEIDE 2.0 in order not to confuse the customers. Demonstration a few days ago how to access multiple clusters with it.
  • Would be nice to see NeIC logo also on UNINETT Sigma2 appstore, see https://wiki.neic.no/wiki/Branding same true for OpenShift environment
    • Separate discussion on that on data.deic.dk
  • What to do with joint support channel after the end of the project?
  • Technically we are behind in aim3 target2: no conclusive view in the countries on the usefulness to proceed
  • SR-IOV (running MPI based jobs on Azure) so far report on NWP usecase (technically ahead of schedule).


Decision: The SG received the report and decides on DP5.

Glenna2 SG 18-19. iOBS (NordNWP) project

  • iOBS background

Discussion:

Anette Lauen Borg (MET Norway) is supposed to start as PM for iOBS on Nov 1st.

UNINETT Norway interested to join (especially within data analytics and IoT), Olav will speak to Francesca Iozzi later today to align this with Sigma2.

CSC: IoT use cases and data processing challenges within are of interest.

Need to converge interests when formulating the projectplan.


Decision: N/A

Glenna2 SG 18-20. Midterm report outcome

Question: Is there interest in the SG for a AI related target in Aim3?

Discussion:

  • Spirit of Glenna to continue in GÉANT task 4.3 (proposal coming from Norway). Dan will run this task. NORDUnet will be the official partner (neither UNINETT, nor CSC), start early next year.
  • Continue on bilateral agreements, continue on specific topics (e.g. bare-metal provisioning), like Letter of Intent between SSC and CSC (showing also international collaboration). Just win-win, no funding needs to be involved.
  • Basic SSC funding is bound to IaaS, but Spjuths group might be interested to shift focus also other SNIC centers that are currently outside of SSC. Not all SNIC funding allocated to only SNIC cloud personnel. Chalmers could be involved more. Matteo will only work until the end of the year, potential good time to change focus
  • Continuation from Kubernetes and Openshift work and AI would fit very well future CSC developments.
  • KubeFlow expected to be the major platform for AI deployments in the future, still premature but expected to evolve into the industry standard.
  • What initiatives are out there and would could be formed to benefit the users.
  • Benefit realization mainly within the NeIPs (e.g. Kubernetes work has been crucial), pooling competences will continue, and GÉANT T4.3 is the logical continuation.
  • Potentially Danish funding could be used on AI target instead.
  • Continuous analytics (“devops meets machinelearning”) and tensorflows and GPUs to train AI networks might be topics of interest
  • Wallenberg foundation projects cover deeplearning


Decision: The SG generally approves the idea of adding an AI related target and gives an AP to Dan to investigate the competences and concretize the topics. NeIC to follow up on Danish membership within Glenna2.

Glenna2 SG 18-21. NeIC Announcements

Strategy and open call:

  • open call responses followed-up on internally, big strategy discussion within NeIC Board within 2 day December Board meeting with strategy focus.

Impact and benefit analysis:

  • impact: society asks for return of investments (e.g. UN SDGs sustainable development goals) NeIC to secure long-term funding together with the NeIPs towards national research councils.
  • business case for NOSC programme (umbrella over several projects including INFRAESOC proposal EOSC Nordic)
  • benefit analysis: publications, datasets, workshops, consortia and networks, ...

Discussion: N/A

Glenna2 SG 18-22. DP checklist and business case (tabled)

DP checklist template updated: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NuCe2Q2_GlW5HgMAqZto_7aGR8bwsT_l2G0Fogpeaa4/edit

Decision:

Glenna2 SG 18-23. Benefit analysis (tabled)

Discussion:

Decision:

Glenna2 SG 18-24. AOB and Selfassessment

Discussion:

Andreas will step down as head of SSC. He wants to focus on new master programme within Data Science. Lars-Owe lars-owe.ivarsson@it.uu.se might take over.

Decision: N/A

Glenna2 SG 18-25. Next meeting

Decision:

Dan to make a Doodle poll for December

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