E3DDS SG Meeting 20200205

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E3DDS steering group meeting

Time: 2020-02-05 10h00-12h00 CET

Place: https://cscfi.zoom.us/j/9917669499

Invitations:

  • Craig Heinselman, EISCAT
  • Yasunobu Ogawa, EISCAT
  • Tomasz Malkiewicz, NeIC, Project owner
  • John White, NeIC, Project manager

Agenda

Presence, approval of agenda (5')

Next meeting

  • E3DDS SG concluding meeting on 2020-05-12 10h00-11h30 CET
    • F2F meeting with a possibility to attend via Zoom

Project status

The project plan is being followed:

  • Project works well... good attendance to meetings

https://wiki.neic.no/int/Category:E3DDS_Project_minutes

  • Deliverable documents are "owned" by the partners. So far has worked well.

DO2

  • From the last meeting "The E3DDS project should update DO2 according to the testing and network."
    • We are updating the document still...
    • After the Stakeholder meeting in Tromso, we now look at the high-bandwidth network option.
    • Changes the on-site computing and diagrams.
    • EISCAT gitlab works nicely.

DO3

https://wiki.neic.no/int/E3DDS_Deliverable_3

  • Still underway.
  • FSRU and server testing still underway by EISCAT_3D project.
  • Practical help on White Rabbit deployment.

DO4

https://wiki.neic.no/int/E3DDS_Deliverable_4

  • Document underway.
  • First cost offer from HPC2N to run dCache as part of NT1.

https://wiki.neic.no/int/E3DDS-Project-Minutes_2020-01-13#DO4

  • Summary:
    • 1 M($ Euro CHF) buys 20 PB of disks. 6.5 PB/rack.
    • 70 kEuro/y Power and cooling and man power. 0.5 FTE in the NT1 budget.
    • 24/7 operations (within NT1 operations).

https://wiki.neic.no/int/E3DDS_Sites_Service_List

  • AP John: Add two items to the list: due date and usage example (e.g. for batch queue system)

Test Cluster

  • FSRU acceptance final?
  • One test EPYC server.
  • Still have a valid offer from Umea to host a test FSRU/EPYC servers cluster
  • AP John: Consider testing with FSRU placed in Kiruna and processing in Umeå

WAN Topology

  • NORDUnet presented the high-bandwidth options.

https://wiki.neic.no/w/ext/img_auth.php/7/79/EISCAT-3D_network-E3DD3_Stakeholder_Oct_2019.pdf

Data Transfer Tests

Benefit realization management

NeIC Affiliate programme

EISCAT SAC meeting

  • Invited for March 24th.
  • Present the findings and collaborations of E3DS/E3DDS

AOB

  • E3DDS Stakeholder meeting in Umeå on 2020-04-28

Minutes

Presence, approval of agenda (5')

Present:

  • Craig Heinselman, EISCAT
  • Yasunobu Ogawa, EISCAT
  • Tomasz Malkiewicz, NeIC, Project owner
  • John White, NeIC, Project manager

Agenda approved as presented.

Project status

Question: How about adding metadata as a subject? Noted that the DataCite and Invenio are not ideal candidates.

  • This is being addressed in the DO2 document, Section 11.4.
  • Action: John to inquire whether use of existing metadata catalogue as a test is possible.

Question: Estimation of the prompt computing requirements?

  • The prompt computing estimates are progressing. The software from EISCAT gitlab is available and has been tested. Still the estimates of the prompt computing for remote and central sites is still not precise. These have been presented at the EISCAT ARM last year December.

Question: Could there be some loss of contact with NORDUnet? i.e. Link between E3D and NORDUnet/FUNET/UNINETT/SUNET through E3DDS project will no longer be there when E3DDS project ends on 2020-04-30

  • EISCAT has good contacts with SUNET and Uninett. Not so much with FUNET.
  • The bids for the network in Finland expire(d) in 2019?
    • Check with Matti Laipio and Teemu Kiviniemi.

Question: Should we consider the stage 4/5 in the high-bandwidth network plan?

  • The sites for stages 4/5 do not have to be explicitly planned for now. As these later stages are far into the future, the technology will advance so that supplying Tb/s network to other sites should be a routine task.

DO2

No specific comments made.

DO3

No specific comments made.

DO4

  • AP John: Add two items to the list of services to be considered:
    • Due date i.e. does the service have to be deployed on day 1 of operations?
    • Usage example (e.g. for batch queue system).

Test Cluster

  • AP John: Consider testing with FSRU placed in Kiruna and processing in Umeå

WAN Topology

No comments.

Data Transfer Tests

No comments.

Benefit realization management

NeIC Affiliate programme

  • AP Craig and Yasunobu: Identify a shepherd (contact person for E3D)

EISCAT SAC meeting

  • No comments.

AOB

  • E3DDS Stakeholder meeting confirmed in Umeå on 2020-04-28

Next meeting

  • E3DDS SG concluding meeting on 2020-05-12 10h00-11h30 CET
    • F2F meeting in Uppsala, SE with a possibility to attend via Zoom
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