NeIC Conference 2013: Report on "Cloud Computing - Opportunities and Challenges"
"Towards the clouds, together. Collaboration on cloud services in research and education" (Andres Steijaert)
End User Push
30 % of world population online
In 8 years Internet information increased by 50 x
Dropbox, Skydrive
Users will choose the simplest path
Distribution changed due to cloud: no supply chain.
Fast delivery.
Rapid updates, elastic
We need open online collaboration
Geant good example of sharing
Multiple vendors
SUNET Box service
Okeanos
“A Tale of Two Clouds” prevent vendor looking
Europe 50 million users
List of cloud service via SURF Work together
Patriot Act can “obtain” data in Europe in all American companies
Data classification in the Netherlands
Template to cloud sourcing
Checklist for contractual agreements (Audit)
"Nordic Opportunities for Cloud Software Collaboration" (Ivan Porres)
Cloud software Program 2010—2013 in Finland
29 partners (industry, academia etc).
Industry products -> services
More competitive Finnish industry
1. Cloud business 2. Cloud technologies 3. Lean and Agile Software Enterprise
Now last year
Yearly stages
Meets 4 times a year + workshops etc.
Business results so far:
Big companies have started internal processes Several new cloud service concepts demonstrators New ecosystem being formed Research results
www.cloudsoftwareprogram.org.
"~okeanos and Synnefo: The public cloud service and the open source software that powers it" (Vangelis Koukis)
How to deliverer cloud services?
Brokering between 3rd party cloud
Build own solution
Bringing the vendor into the datacenter
Propiarotory or commodity HW
Where do the data reside?
Costs per VM?
Providing cloud services is a tough engineering job
Different layers
Many technologies
Skill sets
VM are not cattle they are pets
User frustrated
Need reliable efficient live VM migration
Our choices.
Build own
Own the engineering
Open source
Production quality IaaS
Persistent VMs
Commodity HW – NO SAN
Large scale Installations
Super simple UI.
History
Design started 2010 Production July 2011
Users > 3500
VM > 4600
500000 VMS spawned
10 compute cluster in production
Software:
Synnefo:
Based on standards like Google Geneti
Cluster vs. Cloud
Openstack
Many software layers
Integrated Compute and Storage
Identity – multiple methods
Quotas
Projects
Operations
Rolling upgrades
Cross datacenter move, Intel -> AMD, etc.
IP renumbering
www.synnefo.org
Panel Discussion
PÖ: Services on the internet ….What is new?
AS: Users have a choice Use Amazon, we have to do better
Mikael Grönager: Give user credit card Use commercial services
Why build academic network? The same for cloud
SN: Do we build our own power plants?
It is the service around that create value.
Q: competition vs. standardization: cloud simple because of no standardization Competition may make it so complicated
VK: No one wants the complexity of the grid brought back to the cloud
SN: Big vendors refuse standards since they like to lock-in users.
Q: Is there risk for that all need the peak at the same time in the research?
SN: Paying would solve that. We can go to commercial providers.
Real experience in the failures. This makes us different from commercial vendors.
IP: Sharing is required to get public funding
Q: Standardizing storage interface big failure in the Grid world. How do we avoid the same again?
SN: Standardize to early, or too late
Standard process: light enough to handle failure
End-users interested- fit with the way they working Needed intermediates that hide details. Flexibility for the users.
Voice of the users missing in the panel.
Q: users grid middleware. Focus on users- Find out what users want! Salman: it also the administrator
PÖ: companies connecting and use lean and agile development with cloud What can we learn from that?
We can learn a lot from the interaction with the user
Session Summary
Lessons Learned
- Don't repeat the mistakes from the Grid with very complex software.
Future Directions
- Users in academia will use the cloud whatever happens.
- Organisations have the chance to adopt strategies now.
Opportunities
- Opportunity for a Nordic cloud industry
- Opportunity for academia to use cloud resources with all the advantages with cloud.