NT1/SG-Meeting-2020-12-16

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NT1 meeting 2020-12-16, 14:00

Online: link see nt1-sg chat

Invited: Mattias Wadenstein, HPC2N; Oxana Smirnova, HEP, LU; Michaela Barth, PDC-HPC


Agenda

  • Presence and approval of agenda
  • Staff changes
  • EGI discussion
  • In-kind contributions
  • NeIC Gitlab and NT1
  • Open Actionpoints
  • AOB

Minutes (approved)

Presence and approval of agenda

Present: Mattias Wadenstein, HPC2N; Oxana Smirnova, HEP, LU; Michaela Barth, PDC-HPC

Decision: The agenda is approved.

Staff changes

This is Mattias’ last meeting as a project manager, he will continue as technical lead for the activity. Mattias and the new project manager will have meetings with Gudmund.

Technical lead and Project manager needs to split representation into various bodies: WLCG representations, service development, day-to-day operations lead, new communities, NorduGrid, etc

Michaela will continue as project owner until the end of January, Tomasz Malkiewicz to take over after that.

New dCache developer getting up to speed.


EGI discussion

EGI is contacting Nordic countries to return as paying members of EGI Foundation. Our perceived benefits as a WLCG site of being a member of EGI is not that much for our own operations, but we can see benefits for the LHC experiments (GGUS) and WLCG office (Accounting). Even in the case when we have to use slightly suboptimal tools, the extra staff effort on our side is less than the volunteer work for EGI that we're currently doing (NGI_NDGF). National infrastructures, not communities (which would make more sense), are the members of EGI. EGI membership is according to the WLCG director not a requirement to be part of WLCG, but membership is recommended. SG agrees on this common strategy: If not advised otherwise by WLCG office or our supported LHC experiments (e.g. through a policy document), we stick with our current approach. We might add it as part of the budget request (as a good to have) for next annual budget, based on the firmness of the WLCG recommendation statement.

In-kind contributions

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JnwHk6sNwAjPTkV-WgujuC0qLPHamLjGkCVkzs039k4/edit#gid=0 Only 4.62 listed in 2020 NeIC budget (see https://wiki.neic.no/w/ext/img_auth.php/2/22/2019_12_12_Board_Meeting_Minutes_Oslo.pdf ), unclear where this number comes from. Coming up with good should numbers was part of the Collaboration agreement work last summer: https://wiki.neic.no/int/NT1_Responsibilities#Break_down

CSC is lower in the estimate, because they don’t have tape operations. NSC and NBI run both ATLAS and ALICE, and are therefore set higher for computing. Bergen increased according to previous estimate according to level in RCN application, already assuming the staffing costs for their purchased but not yet in production tape system. The table is not listing any additional in-kind under 2020 with ARC coordinator sponsored by 0.8 FTE by Swedish LHCK consortium. The problem of tracking in-kind: We only ask for managed services, not for individuals. Some of the effort is “fair share” of shared resources, like computing cluster or tape library management. We need to talk to partners to confirm the actual provided numbers (for 2020). In the NT1 effort to become more efficient, reducing the effort of running dCache pools at sites by moving part of the effort to central ops, this shifts the budget not necessarily in NeIC NT1’s favour.

So far confirmed numbers:

  • 2 FTE from NO confirmed as part of RCN work.
  • HPC2N and NSC have 1.2 FTE each funded for operations of tier-1 services.

NeIC Gitlab and NT1

Idea from within CodeRefinery2: Move GitLab eventually to NT1 for long-term sustainability of the service. But CodeRefinery2 sustainability is still under discussion with more input from Provider Forum expected, CodeRefinery will apply in the upcoming open call (for 5 years).

Functioning GitLab is nowadays a requirement for NT1 operations. The service itself is hosted by DeIC, oral offer from ETAIS to cover eventually the years remaining of 2021 - 2023. A good estimate of the actual support manpower needed is missing. Possibly split into service operations (keeping gitLab running, included in DeIC contract) and service management (forgotten passwords, help for new groups, etc).


Open Actionpoints

New:

  • AP Michaela discuss in-kind contribution discrepancies in the budget confirmed to NT1 perceived with Gudmund
  • AP Mattias confirm actual spent in-kind numbers for 2020 for remaining sites
  • AP Mattias follow up more with EISCAT_3D
  • AP Oxana (with help of Petter) to get updated numbers for ATLAS and ALICE publications with Nordic contributions (by latest 8th of January)

From NLCG/Gudmund:

  • AP: Find funding agency representatives so that the Nordic CRSG (a work group of LHC C-RRB) representatives can be appointed by funding agency representatives.


Old:

  • AP Michaela: to discuss suggested KPIs within NeIC XT. (done)
  • AP all: SG present updated KPI ideas to NLCG committee. (done)
  • AP: Michaela and Mattias to read through updated project plan and provide feedback (until 22nd of October) (done)
  • AP Mattias: keep following-up with EISCAT-3D.
    • new budgetary limits
  • AP: Mattias to send all contact details to Johanna and ask her to ask for LoS. (done)
  • AP: Mattias to make operational procedures again public and up to date so it can be referred to.

AOB

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