Glenna2/SG-Meeting-2019-10-11

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Glenna2 steering group meeting

Time: Friday 2019-10-11 at 12:30-14:30 CET
Place: VideoConference Zoom: https://cscfi.zoom.us/j/2247367712

Live Minutes https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eFp1na1fMz_p6g1K_frbVkSfoBPGsqY0n38m9VCWa_g

Approved: 24 October 2019

Invitations:

  • Aleksi Kallio, representing CSC, FI
  • Magnús Gíslason, representing CSUI, IS (as observer)
  • Maria Francesca Iozzi, representing UNINETT Sigma2, NO
  • Andreas Hellander, representing SNIC, SE
  • Dan Still Project Manager representing NeIC
  • Michaela Barth, NeIC Executive Manager, representing NeIC, Chair


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Agenda

Glenna2 SG 19-46. Welcome and Presence
Glenna2 SG 19-47. NeIC announcements (Open Call, Icelandic status)
Glenna2 SG 19-48. Project Report
Glenna2 SG 19-49. Decision on Deliverables
Glenna2 SG 19-50. Géant T4.3 overview
Glenna2 SG 19-51. DP checklist and business case
Glenna2 SG 19-52. Upcoming final report procedures
Glenna2 SG 19-53. Sustaining benefits and future outlook discussion
Glenna2 SG 19-54. AOB and self assessment
Glenna2 SG 19-55. Next meeting

Minutes

Glenna2 SG19-46. Welcome and Presence

Presence: Michaela, Dan, Maria Francesca, Andreas

Agenda was sent out in time. We have quorum

Decision: The agenda is approved.

Glenna2 SG19-47. NeIC announcements (Open Call, Icelandic status)

Open Call process:

5 project proposals and 2 pre-study proposals received. Decision on pre-studies was done in early September and one pre-study on NDHL https://neic.no/ndhl/ was started. Project proposals are going through an independent review panel. The POs are not involved. Final decision based on suggested ranking will be done by NeIC Board in the mid December meeting. The next years call is supposed to start earlier.

Icelandic status:

The PO let the Icelandic SG member know via email in September that since the Glenna2 project is approaching its end, new personal added after the summer might not be considered a real asset to the project in completing its goals. It was therefore recommended to stop keeping looking for further manpower within Iceland for Glenna2. NeIC has removed Iceland for the Glenna2 2019 budget prediction as presented to the NeIC Board on Oct 8th.

NeIC trying to get a date for the Icelandic dialogue meeting.

Proposal to be taken up during DK dialogue meeting: Staff working at Suddansk Universitet on Glenna2 relevant topics? Roadmap new DeiC mandate in relation to technical competence from IT departments.

Strategy:

New strategy for 2020-2025 since before the summer featuring 4 strategic objectives:

NeIC XT currently working on Strategy implementation plan.

Other:

Summary: The SG was informed.

Glenna2 SG19-48. Project Report

https://wiki.neic.no/w/ext/img_auth.php/7/7e/Glenna2_Project_Status_2019-10-11.pdf Topics:

  • Arlanda Workshop
  • The Lean AI Stack
  • Deliverables overview
  • Outreach

Planning for final workshop in early March. Preferably a one day event.

Aim2 Target1: Norwegian ready to contribute to a really neutral report ‘OpenShift vs Kubernetes’, keeping to plain technological aspects. Compliant service vs easier provision? The requirements might be different! Convergence between national and local infrastructures is desirable.

Observations: Is CSC buying support from RedHat for OpenShift? Available support is a desired feature for many. Managed Kubernetes on top of OpenStack is currently very attractive.

Three applications were published acknowledging NIRD.

Leaning towards using KubeFlow within LeanAI as preferred method. Lean AI fits Aim-3, target4, D2. Specific NGT demo needed? Glenna funding within LeanAI has been mainly used for KubeFlow. Requirements have partially been driven by outside parties (Scaleout). Good to show synergies and list both Norwegian and Swedish contributions to one Deliverable!

Aim3: target4: a lot more has been done than listed in the project plan. Note! For knowledge building, even “bad experiences” should be reported as valuable lessons others can profit from.

Norwegian staff: TR on parental leave from November. MH not listed in service agreement? AP: Check with NeIC administration on MH and his travel money claim. AP: Follow up on TR

NORDUnet inquired why not part of Glenna initiated proposal to the NeIC open call.

Decision: The report has been received.

Glenna2 SG 19-49. Decision on Deliverables

  • Please consult Project status report for description of deliverables.


LeanAI toolkit promotion: How to best use NeIC’s channels to help promote LeanAi. NeIC would be ready but needs a timeline if the intention is to make a big news item. Needs confirmation of successful deployment in SSC and demos in Norway and Finland.

Further beyond approval: A3T2 and A1T4

Decision: Reports within A1T3, A3T1, A3T2 and A3T3 formally approved pending any changes requested within 2 weeks from this meeting. SG will provide feedback to A1T4 report. A3T2 and A1T4 reports to get DOIs once approved.

Glenna2 SG 19-50. Géant T4.3 overview (tabled)

Decision:

Glenna2 SG 19-51. DP checklist and business case

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E-bvpV2hguMtpoaIdGutTt9MqTFnfYeyWyCQI3qBrMI/edit#

Decision: The DP checklist document has been updated.

Glenna2 SG 19-52. Upcoming final report procedures

Assessment by the SG is recommended. Mid March for a final SG meeting makes sense.

Decision: Deadline for Final report Last of February. January 13th as deadline for a draft version. SG to provide their assessment until last of February.

Glenna2 SG 19-53. Sustaining benefits and future outlook discussion

Aim3 Targe4 items need to be listed. Scaleout will continue to develop LeanAI after the end of Glenna2.

Decision: Rework Business case with Aim3 Target 4 items included.

Glenna2 SG 19-54. AOB and self assessment

Lots of digression. Effective discussions on the side.

Decision:

Glenna2 SG 19-55. Next meeting

Decision: AP Make Doodle poll for Mid March. Deliverables to be approved via email.

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