E3DS SteeringGroupMeeting 20180108

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Time: Monday 2018/01/08 at 10h00-12h00 CET
Place: Online
Room: https://zoom.us/j/3989300056

Useful links

The agenda for the meeting:

Approval of agenda

Background

Discussion

Decisions

Approved as given.

Minutes of previous meeting

Decision

Minutes of the previous meeting are accepted.

EISCAT_3D Project Status

Background

EISCAT_3D Project kick-off in Tromso last Sept 2017.

Discussion

There's not much more to mention than from the Stakeholder meeting in Dec 2017.

The project manager will start next week (Jan 15th)

We have our official permission to build at Skibotn.

Decisions

The status is noted.

E3DS Project status

Background

Slides

Discussion

Question... how much involvement from Janos Nagy (NSC, SE) and Andreas Jaunsen (NO)?

Have had telephone conference with each to bring up to speed on the EISCAT_3D project. Janos attended the Stakeholder meeting in Dec 2017. Future involvement foreseen? In a capacity to be decided.


Decisions

The status of the E3DS project is noted and accepted.

Review of the Action list

Background

Action list

Discussion

The action list... is this the best way to keep the list? The wiki table is tedious and a bit cumbersome. An Open-Source reminder system would be nice.

Decisions

Check at the AHM meeting on how other projects handle "action lists".

Document MA-4 (Procurement-compatible solutions for data centres)

Background

See slides from E3DS project status.

Discussion

Craig: Are these links on the MA-4 document page links to internal documents?

John: These are documents received by email from the providers (UiT/UNINETT,CSC,HPC2N/SNIC) and therefore have been copied to the NeIC internal wiki page and linked from there. Agree it would be better to be able to link to external documents as these may be updated.

Decisions

Document to proceed.

Document MC-3 (Report on possible solutions for recruitment of the different experts needed for construction and commissioning of EISCAT_3D)

Background

See slides from E3DS project status.

The document is mostly written, received input from UiT, NT1/HPC2N and LOFAR (promised). A draft is available at:

https://wiki.neic.no/int/E3DS-MC-3-Document

Still need to clarify some points from NT1. Holidays have got in-between.

Discussion

Tomasz: There's the line between computing system and network missing in Figure 1.

John: Will get Lennart/Carl-Fredrik to correct this.

Craig: Section 5.2 ... you will add more?

John: Yes, once I hear from LOFAR...

Decisions

Document to proceed.

Document Discussion - MD-1 (Report on the requirements for the EISCAT_3D data archive)

Background

See slides from E3DS project status.

Discussion

Craig: Will this be done by nect Monday?

John: No... still need time for typing. Information collected but still needs to be rendered into format.

Decisions

Document to proceed. Approval by email once reviewed.

Document Discussion MD-2 (Report on requirements for user’s access to the data archive)

Background

See slides from E3DS project status.

Discussion

Craig: This idea to incorporate into the FIM4R document... I hope there's not risk that they will change our use-case and requirements?

John: That's a valid point. But we/I will give the use-case and requirements from the start. Reviewed by EIACAT_3D members. Ingemar already in contact with AARC-2 project. (We have phone conference Friday 12th January)

Decisions

Proceed to collaborate with the FIM4R document.

Stakeholder meeting wrap-up

Background

Stakeholder meeting agenda and minutes at:

https://wiki.neic.no/wiki/EISCAT_3D_stakeholders_meeting_Dec_5th_2017

Conclusions included future project of data flow simulations useful. Must liaise with the network people as well.

Discussion

Any need to change the format?

Not seen... these are some of the better meetings in general.

Craig: People are focused and enthusiastic at these meetings.

When do we have the next meeting? Currently scheduled for right before the NorduNet conference in Sept 2018. (Agreement)

Decisions

Action on John to send out notice that the next Stakeholder meeting will be on Sept 17th 2018 in Elsinore DK.

No need to change the format.

Preparations for EISCAT_3D Support follow-up project

Background

Slides

Discussion

Yasunobu: Question about CA? In the schedule of the PDI to PP work. (Collaboration agreement)

John: the PP should be ready by by mid-March if we are to be able to start April 1st.

John: In fact, we need a decent draft for the end of February... meeting to discuss content.

Tomasz: I think that the 3rd week of February? For the actual negotiations after?

Action: John to send a Doodle poll for the week of 19th-23rd week.

This is a meeting with all authors of the PP plus SG (if possible).

Decisions

The work from the Project Directive to Project plan should continue...

Doodle poll for week of Feb 19th for FtF of all authors of the PP plus SG (if possible).

Other questions

Background

Yasunobu: We agreed that we should present to the Scientific Advisory Committee in March 13/14th in Tokyo.

Discussion

John to present... question is whether to be online or in person?

Can schedule this for the afternoon of the first day.

Proposed Decision

Next meeting

Discussion

Yasunobu will be in Tromso until March 26th... so 27th. 09h00 CET. March 27th 2018.

Decision

Next SG meeting on March 27th 2018, online.