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Glenna steering group meeting
Time: Thursday 2015-05-21 at 14:00-16:00 CEST
Place: VC - Adobe Connect - https://connect.sunet.se/nordiccloud
Approved: For approval
Invitations:
- Martin Bech, representing DeIC, DK
- Åke Edlund, representing SNIC, SE
- Hans A. Eide, representing UNINETT Sigma, NO
- Sæþór L. Jónsson, representing CSUI, IS
- Pekka Lehtovuori, representing CSC, FI
- Dan Still Project Manager CSC, FI
- Dejan Vitlacil, NeIC Generic Area Coordinator, representing NeIC, Chair
Links
- Project internal wiki: https://wiki.neic.no/int/Nordic_Cloud
- Project public homepage: https://wiki.neic.no/wiki/Glenna
Agenda
- Glenna SG 15-01. Approval of agenda
- Glenna SG 15-02. 1st use case: UU/Hellander&al SaaaS
- Glenna SG 15-03. 2nd use case: Meteo CloudMUSC
- Glenna SG 15-04. DeiC cloud storage proposal
- Glenna SG 15-05. Project timetable
- Glenna SG 15-06. Project staffing and shifting of Decision Point 5/6
- Glenna SG 15-07. AOB
- Glenna SG 15-08. Next meeting
Minutes
Glenna SG 15-01. Approval of agenda
(5 mins)
Decision:
Approved
Glenna SG 15-02. 1st use case: Uppsala University/Hellander&al SaaaS
(10 mins)
The Scientific Application as a Service use case was presented by Salman Toor in the meeting on 06.05.2015.
In order to make a decision whether to approve the proposal the SG inquired the following additional information:
- number of person months
- persons responsible for use case execution and steering
- proposed start and end date
Response to SG inquiry:
- number of person months: 6 PM (UU:3PM NeIC:3PM)
- persons responsible for use case execution and steering: Salman Toor (2PM) & N.N. Uppmax person (4PM), steering: Andreas Hellander
- proposed start date: If funding decision in May start could be in mid August; end date: 1st milestone in November, finish by end of February 2016
- Computing resources included in NeIC funded Glenna quota
Project leader's proposal:
- Steering group decides to approve the SaaaS use case
Information on Glenna Use Case Funding Procedure:
The Steering group is invited to discuss the proposal and decide on approve / modify / not approve the use case.
Discussion:
The proposal was already presented and discussed in the previous meeting at Hanasaari May 6th. The SG was pleased with submitted information in response to SG inquiry and the additional information on the use case funding procedure.
Decision: Approved
Glenna SG 15-03. 2nd use case: Nordic Meteo CloudMUSC
(10 mins)
The CloudMUSC use case was presented in the meeting on 06.05.2015. There was a comment by the SG that utilizing the "bursting" capabilities of the SaaaS use case would be desirable.
In order to make a decision whether to approve the proposal the SG inquired the following additional information:
- number of person months
- persons responsible for use case execution and steering
- proposed start and end date
Response to SG inquiry:
- number of person months: 3 PM (Meteo:1,5PM, NeIC:1,5PM)
- persons responsible for use case execution and steering: FMI: Niko Sokka, cloudify MUSC on CSC's OpenStack cloud (pouta) and compile instruction on how to use the cloudified MUSC in practice (1,5 pm) SMHI: Lisa Bengtsson, conduct tests in cloudified MUSC and report findings (1,0 pm), Met.no: Nico Budewitz, portabílity study of cloudified MUSC on met.no's OpenStack cloud (0,5 pm) Steering: Heiner Körnich (SMHI), Sami Niemelä (FMI) and Jorn Kristiansen (Met.No).
- proposed start date: If funding decision in May work could potentially begin in August; end date: 1st milestone in November, finish by end of November
- bursting capabilities are of definite interest to the consortium, albeit not explicitly for Harmonie MUSC itself. There are however other Meteo applications where this would be valuable.
Project leader's proposal:
- Steering group decides to approve the CloudMUSC use case
The Steering group is invited to discuss the proposal and decide on approve / modify / not approve the use case.
Discussion:
The proposal was already presented and discussed in the previous meeting at Hanasaari May 6th. The SG was pleased with submitted information in response to SG inquiry
Decision: Approved
Glenna SG 15-04. DeiC cloud storage proposal
(30 mins)
Martin Bech presented the DeiC proposal for cloud storage in the meeting on 06.05.2015.
The SG commented in the meeting on 06.05.2015 that parts of the proposal will overlap with EUDAT and National research repository functionality and need to be reworked. However The SG did not have the time to discuss the proposal sufficiently and discussion will continue on the 21st.
Following some work and discussions the proposal has been modified. The current proposal can be found here:
The Steering group is invited to discuss the proposal and decide on approve / modify / not approve a new WP or subtask according to the proposal.
Discussion:
The steering group discussed the proposal. One challenge is re-allocating already assigned PM:s in countries with several participants at different institutions. The SG decided to go ahead with the cloud storage WP, but further work is needed as to the subtasks to be included in the WP.
Decision: Approved, Project leader to design WP and subtasks
Glenna SG 15-05. Project timetable
(10 mins)
In the SG meeting in January at Skeikampen, Norway the SG commented on the level of detail of the timetable in the project plan i.e. explain in more detail how tasks from the WPs relate to milestones and decision points.
Dan will present the GANTT chart for the project plan.
https://wiki.neic.no/w/ext/img_auth.php/8/85/Glenna_project_Gantt.mpp
https://wiki.neic.no/w/ext/img_auth.php/4/49/Glenna_project_Gantt.pdf
The Steering group is invited to discuss the proposal and decide on approve/ modify/ not approve the revised project plan.
Discussion:
There was not enough time to address this agenda point. Please consult SG 15-06 for further info.
Decision: N/A
Glenna SG 15-06. Project Staffing and Shifting of Decision Point 5/6
(15 mins)
Background: The project has grappled with finding qualified personnel and during NeIC 2015 was informed that Daniel Petersen (SNIC/HPC2N) will be on family leave starting in June and back in early November(?). Daniel is a key member of SNICcloud and also in the Glenna team and it will take some time to find a suitable stand-in and consequently significant delays both in SNIC cloud and Glenna are to be expected. So far there has been effectively no participation in WP work from Denmark and although the situation is expected to improve the project manager is concerned that the November deadline for DP 5/6 will be too tight.
PM proposal: shift DP 5/6 forward by three months until end of February 2016
The Steering group is invited to discuss the proposal and decide on approve/ modify/ not approve a delay of DP 5/6
Discussion: Åke Edlund informed the SG that he is leaving KTH/PDC for a position in the private sector. Consequently there will be further challenges regarding manpower for Glenna (and SNIC cloud) in Sweden.
Decision: Approved
Glenna SG 15-07. AOB
Glenna SG 15-08. Next meeting
To be decided, but before vacations 2015